- **Full Title:** Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think) - **Date Aired:** 02-07-2025 - **Description:** Mike Benz: “USAID is effectively a rent-a-riot operation. That raises questions about the Black Lives Matter protests.”  - **Chapters:** 1. [0:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=0s) The USAID Rabbit Hole Runs Deep 2. [5:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=329s) Trump Is Performing Open Heart Surgery on the Country 3. [9:50](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=590s) Is USAID Truly a Humanitarian Operation? 4. [19:41](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1181s) What Is the Point of Funding Transgender Surgeries in Foreign Countries? 5. [27:13](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1633s) How USAID Secretly Organizes Riots Around the World 6. [46:23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2783s) Is The Blob a Necessary Evil? 7. [52:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3144s) Joe Biden and USAID’s Role in Social Media Censorship 8. [1:07:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4040s) USAID and Russiagate 9. [1:17:08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4628s) How DC’s Economy Is Dependent on Foreign Aid Spending 10. [1:22:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4960s) Why USAID Created a Cuban Twitter 11. [1:29:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5341s) USAID’s Control of the Global Narcotic Empire 12. [1:34:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5655s) How Will the Fall of USAID Impact Our Position as Leader of the Free World? 13. [1:38:28](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5908s) How USAID Benefits Major Corporations 14. [1:45:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6317s) USAID and the Black Lives Matter Riots 15. [1:55:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6942s) The Stupidity of Our Foreign Policy Establishment 16. [2:01:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7289s) The Soros Prosecutors 17. [2:04:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7457s) How Do We Fix This? ## Transcript - [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=0) so you more than anyone for the past couple of years have been Awakening the rest of the country and the world to this Nexus between public and private sector NOS nonprofits US government agencies whose acronyms you don't recognize and you've described an entire complex that affects sensorship regime change all kinds of sinister unconstitutional outcomes that most Americans don't know they're paying for and I'm I'm from DC so as you've explained this to me a couple of times it it all has made total sense but sometimes I wonder like do people believe what Mike Ben is saying and now uh over the last week since the usaid files have dropped mostly on X people are discovering what you have been talking about and learning that it's - [00:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=42) 100% true and I and I just wanted to ask how's that how that feels for you [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] it's it's a sort of somber moment actually more more than anything and it's I found myself very reflective this week and hit by the weight of history of it if that makes sense uh and there's a lot to this I mean a lot of people have said aren't you so happy you've been fighting for this so long and how it's happening and so they expecting you know cartwheels and spiking footballs and that's not how I feel really at all because the task here was to break the Halo of of this angel that turned into an angel of death I don't think we've - [01:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=102) had the success of the 20th century without having a soft power influence arm um I don't I think this is how we add cheap gas and affordable homes and you know middle class prosperity and Export markets for our manufactured goods here um the the task is to be able to make it be righteous and virtuous again uh but you couldn't do that while it had this Halo and so the Halo had to be broken The Mask had to be taken off in order to implement reforms and there there have been I I I feel the the global impact of fundamental changes to US foreign policy that are happening now because you know as I've been been saying for so long I mean there really is a sort of USA Truman Show uh that much of the world [02:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=157) lives in you many people found out for the first time this week that 90% of media in Ukraine is funded by us Aid many people just now finding out you know the extent of Us Media organizations that are that are funded by uh by USA you they're finding out the the reach of it and everything from the unions to social media censorship to uh pandemic and gain of function research uh to you know strange ties even to things like terrorism and the drug trade and you there there's that sort of these institutions that everyone thought were private and independent being corrupted by you know USA's 44 billion odd dollar a year budget uh and and when I think a lot of people that [03:31](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=211) was a process that I felt was necessary to tell the story of Internet censorship because for me my journey of Discovery on this was like everybody else I thought internet censorship was a domestic story at first and so I start following the trail of it and then I see oh that's weird this at this disinformation conference the next panel is on energy geopolitics what are they doing together huh that's weird and then you go over to the energy geopolitics people and you see okay well they're fellow panelists are all military contractors okay all right so the military has something to do with with social media censorship and and the energy pipeline politics and and Ukraine have something to do with it okay that's interesting and then you keep going down [04:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=252) the line and you see okay there these Chamber of Commerce partners and then you see oh there are these Suite of humanitarian Aid organizations like us Aid Ned the whole Suite of of NOS you know state department grantees National Science Foundation granes and and you start to see that this is in order to tell the story I felt of of Internet censorship and what to do to stop it you had to explain a totally different world than the one people thought that they lived in and for the first several years of this um when I would do my you know little private briefings and bring my PowerPoints around the country and it was it was very hard it was impossible frankly to to crack through even when people saw [05:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=300) the receipts on screen they the saw the source documents and and they they just couldn't conceive that the world actually works this way uh that that our country does these things uh and they have a hard time squaring the morality of it with the the operational side if that makes sense like they don't want to believe certain things and so even if it's six Ines in front of their face they won't and so but I guess getting back to this sort of why am I neutral rather than happy right now is because we are conducting open heart surgery on the vital organs of the American Empire and I am Pro ire to the extent that it helps the Homeland I don't think we'd have a prosperous Homeland without an Empire and the the patient needs open heart [05:51](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=351) surgery it has to be done I am 100% uh a agree with with the the decision that have been made on on policy so far on this um but I I I want to make sure and I feel a a great sense of Duty and obligation to try as best I can to help identify the organ you're operating on because in in the Zeal to um to carry out radical reforms you can if you don't if if take other organs yeah or if you don't don't even know you know how the atriums how the how the organ Works um it's directionally correct to do the open heart surgery but the patient can die on the table if you if you do it wrong and uh all of that has to be like this is just the beginning of the fight to reform this in my view but we are now in the arena and [06:56](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=416) and a blow has been struck this is in my view this week is really the first time maybe in American history with with few exceptions maybe in the in the 60s and 70s uh that the blob the foreign policy establishment that impacts so much of domestic affairs and sometimes controls it has had to answer to the people that fund it uh this this is a shot across the bow there there have been so many tactics that they've been able to deploy to shift the course of domestic politics in order to ensure that their global vision stays the course and there's been a blitz Creek I don't think they saw this coming I I understand exactly what you're saying I don't think Americans even now really understand the degree to [07:48](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=468) which or foreign policy establishment use uses other countries particularly the five eyes the other english- speaking Intel services against us here you know I've almost never met a British reporter in the United States who wasn't acting on behalf of some Intel service against the United States it's like it's absolutely crazy I dealt with one today actually um do you know what I'm talking about I don't know the individual you're referring to but you're familiar with the trend um so but I guess what I hear you saying is Americans when they learn just how corrupt the system is may lose faith in their country Milton Friedman gives this example about the pencil have you ever seen this video he um he talks about it [08:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=513) in the context of libertarian economic theory he he says look at this pencil and he you know holds up a pencil and it's got a lead tip and graphite and gum and he goes no no single person in the world can make this pencil the gum comes from trees in Malaysia and the lead comes from you know some mine in Africa and the graphite comes from graphite miners in South America and it's the magic of the market that all makes it possible you know everyone doing it for their own self-interest e economic gain but it creates this magical web of cooperation where everyone profits and that's how we get cheap pencils in the US and I think what we're what we're about to walk in on is the is is the the flip side of that which is [09:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=566) that people have been lied to in this country where they've thought that they've been they've been sold that this was humanitarian Aid and uh and co-signed it and and I let me come back to this point about the pencil because maybe that'll just appear a little bit later in the story um and I'll just sort of hint at it now but right now the people who are trying to defend us Aid are stuck between IR rock and a hard place they they they want to defend it on humanitarian grounds and then they get totally deluged with all the ways that it has gone wrong and all the horrible things that's funding so then they they then turn to Layer Two this is sort of like Lindsey Graham defending our operations in in Ukraine when it was [10:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=615) you know we need to do this for democracy democracy and then we say okay well you canceled elections uh you know you've you're you know there all these non-democratic things that are happening and he goes okay okay layer two of my defense is there's four $ 14 trillion worth of Natural Resources under the soil there so right you know having it be a us vassal state is advantage to us cuz then we can exploit those 14 trillion dollar worth of resources I mean that's what's implied there right why would Americans benefit from ukrainians exploiting that 14 trillion now and by the way that's not a knock on on your but you can you simply saw that shift happen when you know as it got harder and harder to defend it on the basis of democracy [10:54](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=654) promotion the The Mask had to slip in order to defend it at the deeper level it was to to let people in okay here's what we're here's why we're really doing it in every USA program operates that way it is getting back to this rock in the hard place analogy is that they want to say it's humanitarian aid but it's clearly done so much harm in so many places it's doing such terrible things funding the Wuhan lab uh you know not to to mention you know the whole rest of the USA Truman show but then they go okay okay well it's us soft power it's uh it advances us strategic interests and so you say oh okay so it's not Aid and and then it becomes very schizophrenic to defend this thing because it's it's a Labyrinth of [11:49](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=709) Lies USA's access and its reputation completely depends on its perception as being a kind of Quasi charity even though you know it's nowhere charity is nowhere to be found it's a US foreign policy instrument a isn't even in the name you I've said this many times but it's the agency for International Development and when you see Aid yes is your mind playing tricks on you uh and by the way growing up my dad worked with USA it was called usaid not us Aid right to make it clear to everybody was not an aid organization right right but now they call it us Aid right well I mean you know I mean I'm I'm sure the Ronald Reagan Building though you know but but how it's colloquially known I mean and how it's described to the voters it's [12:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=755) described as humanitarian assistance and you go okay well you know and we can we can get into the the depth of the scandals but I guess the the fundamental feeling that I have right now is this is going to get a lot worse as people go through this self-discovery process of of what's happening and we we were talking a little bit earlier where I mentioned you know 8 years ago when I was writing my you know little book attempt to try to explain all everything that was happening in ER in censorship and I felt like I had to explain all these other you know tectonic plates of American society and and Global Affairs just to understand who and what and why is why they're censoring the internet but you know I would I would [13:27](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=807) spend my whole day in usas spending.com of you know to the exclusion of of everything else friends family uh a social life and just going through that Pro this can't be true this can't be true oh my God it is oh my God it is and there are there's a sort of five stages of depression that plays out as you Discover It Yourself going into these Grant datab bases and seeing the receipts with with your eyes like that because that's what I've seen on my news feed this week it's been just hundreds of people all all with huge megaphones who are just spending their day like saying hearing about oh wow there's all this corruption at USA let me plug it into the the search database let me fish around a little bit oh here's what I found and now everyone's contributing to [14:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=857) this common knowledge which is which is really amazing but I still feel the already faith has been shaken but there are layers to this that I think are going going to um truly shock people when they begin to try to put their their minds around it and I I believe fundamentally in US soft power I believe in soft power projection I believe there is a role for projects in foreign countries that have a dual function of helping the people there and helping secure import export markets for us helping secure natural resources uh you know helping secure you know uh US National Security goals in in the region there is a role for that uh and I I I just I I feel that many came into this [15:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=918) movement around Maga and nationalism because they they cared about their schools and and the woke agenda in their schools or they cared about their their streets and their neighborhoods and and whether they were safe and they cared about you know corruption from the the US president or their local Representatives they never had to think about Pakistan Bangladesh Estonia Tanzania they they never had to think about how you make a pencil and how the goods and services that they that give them the advantaged life that we have in the United States versus other countries depends on the battering ram of this blob apparatus and so as they learn more and more the depths of depravity of The Blob I am I myself am in a hard sort of between a [16:16](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=976) rock and a hard place where more than anyone maybe in in that I know uh have been have been spearheading and trying to lead the charge to to break the blob's Halo um now I'm I'm in an sort of curious position where I feel I'd be remiss if I didn't spend this time at least flushing out that I I don't believe that it should be it should be vanquished entirely it's it's family if that makes sense you know I I was I was thinking about this the other day with we talked about Ukraine several times when we've spoken and we've talked about the 2014 maidon toppling of the democratically elected government coincidentally the person on the on the Pro USA side uh who's leading the charge to fight uh the White House's [17:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1032) reforms is Senator Chris Murphy Chris Murphy bragged on live National Television that uh that the US toppled that government it was only because of us pressure and US support on the ground for for the movements there that that toppled that government um but leaving aside the the morality of whether that was the right or wrong thing to do in the name of of democracy when when Victoria Newland made her speech in December 2013 two three months before before that you know those those protests you know changed world history you know she bragged about the5 billion dollar that USA and Ned and related you know humanitarian assistance orgs had given to you know to effectively the very same Ukrainian civil societ Society organizations that would that would [18:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1080) leave that charge and when she did so she was at a a sponsored event by standing in front of signs for Exon Mobile and Chevron and I've reflected on that picture because it's very easy to look at Victoria nuland as a sort of Angel of Death figure who knocks on European countries doors and tells them hey we're about to uh tople your democratically elected government um and it's very easy to look at the excesses of of big corporations but we do need oil we do we do want cheap oil and gas we do want energy dominance and so you know I'm at this moment when we're seeing the really the first vulnerabilities certainly in my lifetime of this blob monstrosity I'm I feel a strange sort of Sympathy for the Devil which is [18:54](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1134) that they've done they've done terrible things and we should not do them again and they've gone Rogue and there's no oversight and um Horrors Beyond Your Wildest imagination at the same time these are still parts of the American family there is some vesage of a function there that I believe our foreign policy planners have to at least know was there and was the responsible for much of our prosperity um before it's as as they try to reconstruct the patient does that make sense of course it does and I and and I think maybe that's the whole point of this is that um you know any Nation particularly a big one like ours that controls a hemisphere has a foreign policy and has all sorts of ways to affect it including [19:52](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1192) the soft power that you refer to there's nothing wrong with that in fact it's essential the question is why are you doing it are you doing it a to serve your own interest to preserve you know import uh and and Export Advantage are you doing it to secure energy that you need to have a functioning Society those are all are you doing to you know bring peace to your hemispheres you don't have a lot of like craziness and lawlessness and Civil Wars and all that yes those are all good things um or are you doing it to sew chaos for its own sake so I mean I guess the problem that I have with usaid and with the state department and with CIA and with all of the ways that we project power abroad is not that they exist it's that they're not serving us and they're [20:34](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1234) not serving sort of like the basic goals you would want for any great power which like peace security sort of continuity reasonableness Freedom democracy like they're not doing any of that they're like sewing Bizarro destabilizing sexual politics into other people's cultures like why why would you do that I don't understand like what what US interest is served by having all of those agencies that I just named go to some other country and say no you need more trism or some Biz you know you need to structure the family differently like why do we do that how do who wins when we do that well I'm really glad you asked because that is the exact example I've been using to try to um to try to give a a window of entry [21:23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1283) into into this larger sort of point about we need a much larger Vision about the role of US foreign policy if we are going to get rid of the shortcuts that USA provides um and so you know you just mentioned you know why why would USA be promoting you know trans take the example of transgender dance festivals it's something I've been talking about a lot this week um take the example of transgender dance festivals love that sentence it used to be only crazy people thought they were being watched all the time surveilled the guy mumbling next to you on the bus but now anyone who knows what's going on thinks that because it's true your phones are listening to you tech companies tracking all your online activity in order to profit off of what ought to be private information [22:09](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1329) governments are watching too it's a corrupt system it's frightening and the worst part is it's all legal the government certainly will not help stop this of course the Intel agencies love it so it's up to you to protect yourself and that's where expressvpn comes in expressvpn which we use here is an app that sends 100% of your online activity through secure encrypted servers that means nobody can see what you do online not internet service providers not data provoke Brokers not Intel agencies don't believe it listen to this within the last year expressvpn received over 400,000 data requests from tech companies and government agencies but did not share a single piece of cuff trimer data that's because the company has a strict zero logs policy expressvpn [22:54](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1374) cannot and will not share your data they don't even have your data to share Express VPN is easy to use takes one click it's rated number one by the experts at CET and The Verge and right now you get an extra 3 months for free when you use a special link go to expressvpn.com Tucker and get that extra months for free it's expressvpn.com Tucker what is a transgender Dance Festival I having never been so that is when USA or or USA companion Star National Endowment for democracy or other related NGS will you know fund an event in uh in the form of sort of cultural exchange and that will they will bring together people from that country to come to you know a uh you know a Dance Festival that's you know [23:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1422) comprised of transgender individuals and is intended to both uh create a sense of unity within the transgender population there and to expose and normalize and Curry favor with other parts of the demographics there in order to expand the network node of of us entities who are working with the activist and leaders why what American interest is preserved or protected or Advanced by pushing transgenderism or any kind of sexual politics or family politics including Family Planning why is it our business how many kids other countries have I I don't I I've always been confused by that like what is that why are we doing that I I wish that was rhetorical but and and I do believe in in many instances it is ideological excess you [24:34](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1474) know driven to Madness but give an example from just a few months ago I believe it was this this August um this year there was a um prime minister in Bangladesh who was basically ousted in a sort of military coup coupled with a color Revolution and uh gry Zone news max blumenthal's Outlet published this report that I've been talking about a lot for the past week because it's just a really really clean example of all the different facets of the Dynamics I'm talking about which is so basically starting in about 20 208 2018 through 2020 um it appeared that that us statecraft uh was not particularly pleased with um Shake Hina winning this uh uh you know the Prime Minister winning the election and um Baseline assessments [25:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1533) were submitted to the state department about how to prop up the opposition group uh the Bangladesh Bangladesh national party the BNP um which was considered more favorable to us us interests um the this the the leaked documents don't get too in the nitty-gritty about what US national interest is served uh but there there were many conflicts between that Bangladeshi prime minister and um the the US foreign policy establishment uh for example it was revealed in in Wikileaks that Hillary Clinton while she was Secretary of State threatened to have the IRS do an audit of her son while while she lived in the US and uh and she has that prime minister has come out publicly and said that uh you know she believed that she [26:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1578) was overthrown uh because of uh or or basically there was a conflict around around the construction of a US military base in the region which is a very common conflict that we have often times foreign countries don't like having a big fat US military base installed uh you know on they don't want foreign troops on their soil who does right right they don't want 500 Acres of their land you know they don't want to provoke uh you know foreign powers this is what's playing out in Romania with George SK and the the you know the cancellation of the elections and he it's just like a giant NATO base right now right well they're building the world the the Europe's largest NATO base currently which you know faces straight out at the Black Sea at Crimea but there [27:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1620) was this but but she had been refusing to build a US military base so so let's just but as as I walk through this let me just make some assumptions and make it a harder issue than uh or or something a little bit more I guess accessible let's just say it really is vital to US national interests to build that military base in Bangladesh to counter Chinese influence and the Bangladeshi prime minister doesn't want to do it and so our foreign policy planners decide we need to do regime change and that and whether or not you agree that's a good or an evil thing to do I'm I'm not even weighing into the morality of it what if it is the declared or discreet policy of the US government uh the state department and the White House and the National [27:48](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1668) Security Council all agree this government uh yeah we should pursue regime change all options to destabilize that country in order to weaken in the existing government and to build up a our network of democratic institutions and activists uh in order to either win the next election or in order to uh you know do a color Revolution style you know outing where the you know the Prime Minister has to flee in a helicopter and what was done in in this case in in Bangladesh and these leaked documents from the grave Zone show this in gratuitous detail is that um the the national dment for democracies Republican arm the international Republican Institute they have four core fors but two of them are political branches there's the ndi the national [28:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1716) Democratic Institute for Democrats and there's the iri the international Republican Institute for for republicans and what the the iri submit submitted to the state department in 2019 2020 uh after they got walloped trying to back the the the Bangladeshi National party uh in the the recent past election was uh a plan to destabilize Bangladesh uh politics that's a direct quote destabilize Bangladesh politics um by working with they they listed 170 um uh a uh pro-democracy activists 304 key informants and then they did a baseline assessment of the different ethnic groups and cultural cleavage points that they could exploit in order to to effectively you know either destabilize uh the the country's politics or prop up the the [29:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1775) political alternative and in the process of doing that um they they sought the LGBT they sought the LGBT population uh two uh two Bangladeshi ethnic minority groups and young students and student groups who were had already been protesting uh earlier that year because of um some local a local politics issue there uh and and they noted you know that uh rap music was was popular and young people were listening to rap music in Bangladesh so what do they do they um they turned around and they took US taxpayer funds they get 100% of their money from from the state department and they work closely with us Aid they actually administer usaid programs all over Bangladesh and all over the world and they funded Bangladeshi rap groups to produce uh songs and music videos uh [30:32](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1832) insinuating that people should take to the streets and uh do Street protests and you know the the classic uh peaceful protest that's has the you know upside of being a a riot um and uh and you know one of in in iris's Baseline assessment submitted to the state department they talked about how one of the songs they paid for uh was was designed to uh to seow resentment uh at the sitting government and uh you know basically undermine people the popularity of the government so you have one sponsored song to get people to take the streets another sponsored rap song to to get people to you know to distrust their their government and then you basically the Baseline assessment revealed that that these groups were the [31:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1886) ones who would be receptive those were the contact in the region they do field workor when they do these Baseline assessments what if the Baseline assessment or the Strategic assessment happens to reveal that the highest Roi for soft power projection is with very unseemly groups and activities this is for example what how we end up funding terrorist groups and paramilitaries and and in very extreme because often times when you have a popular government it's the Coalition of the fringes and the extremes and the weirdos and the criminals and the prostitutes this this was in an Ned memo in 2009 for Cuba where they were uh where the national down for democracy uh you know under they have something called the Journal of democracy and you [32:13](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1933) know they they talked about this exact phenomenon that they might be able to mobilize the AFR Cuban Community uh to you know leveraging racial animists against the you know mostly you know white Cuban government and you know taking note of of um you know proclivities for I think it was prostitution crime and drugs and how how USA would be and would might be able to swoop in and you know mobilize these people because a lot of them are really unemployed and also the USA should fund the rap groups there because the these these populations all listen to rap and they did and this is another great gray Zone you're making that hair on my arm SC up because you're describing what's happened in our in our country yes you're describing the 2017 [32:56](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=1976) Charlottesville March the nazi march you're describing what happened on January 6 you're describing the riots after George Floyd was murdered you're describing the ri rise of rap music and Drugs in our city and all of you're describing you know Story Hour and you know like you're describing all the trends in our country that seem to arise out of nowhere whose net effect is to destabilize America to fray the social fabric to divide people from each other to make them easier to control and in the case of Trump's first term to to undermine the White House right I mean I I don't know that any of that's true but like what you're what you're describing that we did in Bangladesh is what's happened here and so it it raises the [33:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2020) question like was that all by Design also and of course of course it was right well there's there's a lot there USA gave um uh am I crazy to ask that no not at all I mean that that is to me the the final the final blow us it's it's bad and there's the moral question about whether to do to do this sort of dirty work abroad and that comes down to different schools of foreign policy thought and to different views on the relative morality of different ways of attacking the issue of of us soft power influence abroad it but then there is the the breaking of the firewall where our foreign policy hounds are never supposed to bite the you know the owner who uh who who feeds them and that is I mean that that is to me why this is a no-brainer the [34:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2076) reforms that are happening and then but do you think it's I mean es look just to go through them the 2017 Charlottesville March where all of a sudden out of nowhere they all these Nazis like who knew we had so many Nazis in our country um right and guys one I'm thinking one particular us8 has never funded Nazis by the way right I mean right so but like all out of nowhere Trump gets elected and all of a sudden Charlottesville Virginia Home of UVA not a right-wing town that all these people showing up led by a couple of people are just so obviously feds it's like not even a question in my mind and they're like marching with candles and we're going to restore the fourth Reich or whatever and then that the next day is used to delegitimize Trump and we're [35:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2120) think we're supposed to think that's like all organic I mean that sounds like exactly what groups like usaid do in other countries well I don't know about the Charlottesville case um you know I I can see enough domestic antibodies on that with the FBI and whatnot um and the fact is is I'm not saying USA did it I'm just saying it's the same template oh right oh of no well the ability for the the battering ram of our clo and Dagger dark arts only supposed to operate abroad to be laundered at home yes is is is really the the reason that I believe the current open heart surgery is a no-brainer and I fully support the total abolition of USA as an agency and tucking it understate and putting it through you know having [36:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2170) it menend and then if at some point it needs to be rolled out spun out into into a different independent agency again with with reforms in place and the and the appropriate you know Staffing structure we can have that conversation in a later time um there is the the domestic one is is is a huge one there's so many data points there I think it's it's I think it's be terrifying to a lot of people who are just now experiencing this but I do sort of want to close the loop on this on this foreign side because um my concern is when you try to attack these things at the level of there's no us interest that served in it at all um it's totally crazy um [37:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2220) you you're you're going to encounter very strange layers of resistance trying to attack it from that argument so okay so here's an example I've been giving this week and and I'll I'll hit you with the thought exp what let's just assume and I have no inside knowledge about this I don't I don't talk to to folks on at that level or anything but Venezuela has very Trump has had had a very contentious relationship with the government of Venezuela during his first term you we you know declared Juan guau the the sitting president of you know the the the elected president you know he was O Standing Ovation from you know both sides of the aisle um I could see a situation where this white house where where president Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio um either in a [37:48](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2268) declared or discreet fashion seek to um deploy us soft power institutions to pursue a policy of regime change in Venezuela again I have no inside knowledge about that I I do have inside knowledge and they've been working on that for years and they're Americans in Venezuela fact because I talked to one of them um as of last year there were Americans in Venezuela working to overthrow that government right you know so it's true but I'm going to give a narrow example here but but the problem fundamentally that I'm describing is is fractal across all of this waste FR ause we're seeing what if the state department and in it together with its new US Aid function puts out basically you know a request for proposals to all the different NOS [38:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2317) um for how best to capacity build Civil Society institutions and activists and people who will be willing to you know spread pro-democracy media and and take to the streets and protest against the police and live dual lives effectively as you know um you know working with effectively us spycraft while nominally being Venezuelan citizens or doing the daring and dangerous Deeds of you know transporting supplies despite you know Venezuelan Counter Intelligence monitoring them and what if what if the Strategic analysis or the Baseline analysis that comes back from from these NOS uh is well the transgender population in Venezuela and I know nothing I know nothing about this in in Venezuela but I'm I'm just using this in example for everywhere what if the cold [39:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2369) hard fact is the the demographic in that in that country that is most effective at destabilizing that country's uh uh de democratically that country's government or or that will be most um the the highest return on investment for foreign assistance funds given you what if $2.7 million to a a series of 12 different transgender dance festivals if they if the analysis reveals that we need 5 million votes you know to to win this next election that we don't have and everybody who converts from being heteronormative to transgender effectively goes from being a Maduro person or to a to a you know Pro us one or and everyone who nor who normalizes or or is um or believes that you know transgender people being oppressed by [40:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2424) the government are more likely to vote against the government you could see a cynical self-serving cold hard calculated decision for a um for a magga state department to fund transgender dance festivals and this is important to keep in mind in Bangladesh it was the iri who funded that it was the Republicans who funded the transgender dance festivals and rap groups you know Republicans are not known for loving rap but John McCain I mean McCain ran it for years I mean they're actually all for that but Trump is a winner Trump likes to win and think of the feather and the cap that it would be for Marco Rubio to be the person who brought democracy defense what I'm saying is is leave aside the transgender [41:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2472) issue this is going to happen in everywhere and and I think people just don't understand the that Aid is a dirty deed would Donald Trump returning to the White House this country has a unique opportunity maybe our last opportunity to save our ourselves from the anti-American and anti-human left but our efforts may be styed by the Deep State that's what happened to the first Trump term permanent Washington stands in the way of all efforts to improve the lives of ordinary Americans and right now they are scheming to do the same thing to the second Trump Administration they are determined to keep their strangle hold on power regardless of Elections anti-democratic that is a fact so what do you do to fight them how do you defeat the Deep State well one way [42:03](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2523) you can is by supporting the Heritage Foundation which is in Washington and understands exactly how it works in such a way that they're a threat and they're under attack you know who's effective cuz other ones under attack Heritage has a comprehensive plan to dismantle permanent Washington and restore the country to its Democratic foundations it's important visit heritage.org Tucker to learn more and to support this critical effort and when you make a gift today you get a free Pocket Constitution to make certain that you are equipped with the founding principles on your person at all times it's amazing to read it again that's heritage.org Tucker I I agree with that I I think my I have a like a macro problem with this [42:46](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2566) which is um you know one it's not at all clear that like overthrowing Maduro is in America's interest I I think there's like a a loud exile in Florida that wants it more foreigners have come here brought bringing their stupid feuds into our country um and using political donations to make the US government settle their scores it's like get out of here is totally not our problem leave us alone um that's how I feel about the Cubans the Venezuelans who all of whom I like personally but like these are not our problems and I feel that way about the Gaza thing it's like take it to Gaza okay not our problem I think it's a fair as an American I think it's a fair position to have but so there's that you know like is this actually in our interest or are we just being paid to [43:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2613) care about this yeah two there is a moral quality to it if you're going to say the United States is better than other countries then you can't just you know assassinate people you don't like you can't just like totally destroy their social fabric you have to make a straightforward honorable case and allow the people of that country to decide using democratic means because you're for democracy mhm and if you're not for democracy then don't say you are and and I do think that like there's something so morally corrupting about the means that our foreign policy establishment uses to achieve its goals that it actually does affect our domestic life like January 6 was an OP Yeah by you know by the I think primarily by DOD is my impression uh and it like kind of [44:22](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2662) wrecked our country and put all these people in prison and like who would even think to do something like that well they've been trained for years doing that sort of thing in Far Away Nations that's my view right I I totally agree does that make sense yes and and I'm I'm I'm glad that you're saying that because that that is ultimately we need to square the circle which is that you know imagine a situation I think right now the thing that I'm heartened by more than the the technical victories is the national Consciousness raising that USA does infect all of these institutions and that there is this bleed over between foreign foreign and domestic when people see that media companies [45:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2706) that are writing hit pieces on them are being funded by us Aid when people say that you know the what I've written about the you know social media censorship and and the usaid you know primer documents and the usaid seps program that you know formally plotted to get foreign countries to censor uh to pass censorship laws to Target US tech companies it's the sort of thing that we would typically you know have run a sort of USA covert covert operation to stop an another entity from doing and it's our they're doing it and so but you know from from all the way down the line from the unions to the universities to the for-profit companies to the media to the social media to the terrorist groups to the you know uh gain of function and you [45:53](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2753) know pandemic uh I mean there's you know H how how corrupt does an agency need to be drugs terrorism pandemics uh I mean but it corrupts the country after a while of course of course like you don't allow your cops to just like they know who all the drug dealers are but you don't allow your policemen to walk up and execute them right because that I mean that's not our system and we become as bad as the criminals were fighting if we behave like that but part of the reason there has been such little transparency about USA and and I always say you know when it's too dirty for the CIA you give it to us aid for for a number of reasons yeah yeah and and I I I think if if there really is a sort of us Aid files that you know that that we get from this [46:43](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2803) Administration um I think this is why I'm saying I think people are going to want to not necessarily put a new heart in this in this patient when they see how just to recap some I think you're making a a really important point and I just want to make sure it doesn't get lost in the details correct me if this is not a fair summation but I think you're saying when we look at we we're discovering all these things all the transgender dance contests or whatever that they're funding it's easy to say Well they're just like liberals who are like doing liberal things and what you're saying is no these are hard-edged instruments of policy yes now of course the Personnel n you know 97% of USA employees donate to [47:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2846) Democrats course you know but but you know Liz Cheney started her her career you know she is at the at usaid at the Eurasia portfolio of Russia Ukraine Poland Hungary a lot of this is destabilizing have you noticed like I thought a great power the reason the US is better than the Soviet Union was we brought stability predictability markets democracy and they brought you know war and instability and I always thought that like good leadership good stewardship good parenting brought stability and it does seem like we are intentionally sewing stability dis you know disunity and instability around the world oh I mean I I I literally just you know quoted you a iri document implementing usaid programs where they literally wrote to the US [48:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2892) state department that the purpose of of this you know Baseline assessment was to gather as many activists and informants and network nodes quote to destabilize you know Bangladesh politics but apply that every you know this is you know fundamentally what I believe happed big picture do do you really want that like isn't that shameful of course it's shameful but but the I think people don't fully understand how products arrive on the shelves around them um I was I was mentioning Milton Freeman's pencil example well what happens if Malaysia decides to nationalize you know to to block exports of of gum from the gum trees and the the African miners uh decide that they are going to uh go on strike and not allow [49:05](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2945) you know not allow you know graphite graphite or lad you know and no blob no pencils if you don't have a mechanism to influence that foreign government to stop the nationalization law to hit it with carrot carrots and sticks uh or if it's if it's a problem within the population subo government if it's a particular this is what happened in the Cold War when when the CIA was breaking up union strikes in uh in France and you know the the you know the docks and the the long shoran strikes and the CIA infiltrated the unions and they worked with the you know AFL CIO AFL C and uh and you know they all have Union arms and and so you need a method to be able to go into the unions if you want to be able to have pencils now okay you might say you can live without [49:55](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=2995) pencils but how about no petroleum what if what if it's what if it's something that's what if these are really critical resources for us to be able to have microchips for us to be able to have renewable batteries for us to be able to have you know build computers for us to be able to put gas in our car or Heating in our home um there is a potential necessity and this is why I feel it's so imperative that what's happening right now is happening and I'm I'm thrilled that it is but there's still much more to internalize about this because you're going to need to reconstruct the history of the entire past Century as you disentangle this whole thing if we had not toppled so many foreign governments in service of Big Oil would we have would we have had [50:44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3044) cheap oil well does a president want to this is where I come back to this Venezuela example Trump wants to win and again we we don't have to call it venzel we can call it random random country acts um we're going to be hit with a choice as we as we reduce the usaid function if we reduce the USA function to my knowledge you know the the staff has been radically cut from 14,000 to something like 290 but my my understanding is that most of the grants you know it's $44 billion uh at 14,000 employees it's about a billion dollars of employee overhead you know uh a year so 43 of the 44 billion presumably are still going to all these you know Frankenstein and monster projects uh but you're you're going to be hit with that choice of of [51:32](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3092) do you want to win uh fighting dirty or do you want to potentially lose fighting fair and and that's going to play out in every industrial sector in every region and I'm and I I what I'm concerned about is that so you're saying the US economy can't continue um our prosperity can't continue unless we like wreck other people's countries no I'm not saying I'm not saying that I'm saying that that is something there's there's a micr fractal portion of that argument that is going to play out and is going to be a sort of siren song every step of the way at every Regional desk at the state department at at every National Security Council inter agency coordination and [52:23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3143) there are some lines that I believe we cannot ever cross like for example on the social media censorship side the fact is is it was according to Biden's foreign policy Biden declared populism a threat to democracy his State Department did his USA did and so the best populists were popular online in Europe so the White House had a whole information Integrity working group to have the USF funded ngos Lobby the European Union effectively and push uh the different uh sort of influence and spindle groups comprising the the the regulatory body around the EU Digital Services act to add more more censorship regulations to Target their political opponents and what you're doing is is these people could not do that at home because we [53:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3190) have a First Amendment but Europe doesn't have one so they so if you declare populism to be an attack on Democracy then it's easier to win by advocating censorship but that to me is a violation of fundamental American values not just censorship but putting a lot of people in jail using violence that is a form of violence incarcerating Someone putting them in handcuff and that's what USA does USA's role with the prosecutors is UN unbelievable the the the depth of that rabbit hole but if I if I can just complete this point here because I I want to make sure I'm I there's a lot of nuance to what I'm trying to say here which is which is that people need and and especially at the policy maker and and white house and [53:58](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3238) house senate oversight committee side they need to get a sort of topographical map of the the scope and spectrum of our Dirty Deeds Done In The Name Of Us Aid in order to make a triage assessment of what kind of things can be dual purpose because everything USA is Dual Purpose it has to be it it's it's a us it's everything has to advance US national interests in some respect whether we're irrigating poppy fields or doing poverty relief programs or public health something about doing that act has to advance some sort of US national interest now part of the reason it's been so difficult to oversee USA or get answers from them is because they can't tell you those dual interests honestly in a public forum take this transgender Dance Festival in in Bangladesh thing [54:51](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3291) imagine a hearing on us Aid and a you know high-ranking Republican senator holds up you know you're funding Bangladesh you know you're funding transgender dance festivals and you're spending $2.7 million on this what possible us interest does that serve can that USA administrator on live television uh say to the world well that was a cynical you know we determined actually we were running a covert operation to uh overthrow that country's democratically elected government and uh it actually wasn't about that you know the that at all this was just uh the the whole thing was was a total front for we were building a coalition to challenge the government in power because we didn't like that government right but saying that undermines the advocacy of [55:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3337) all other USA programs so it becomes I get it yeah right but my concern is there's some things you can't do assassinations uh you know promoting internet censorship uh you know full-on you know regime change you know that mobilizes the EST Assets in a society like terrorist groups or uh you know you know extremist groups sort of thing but there's a lot of squishiness in between that and I I'm not sure that the Maga foreign policy establishment being very new other now not Marco Rubio but Marco Rubio is newer to Maga than you know than than the rest of of the White House um and and he you know when he was approved what 99 to Zer or something in the you he was he was in the Senate he was the you know the easiest one to pass and he's and I think [56:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3390) he's done a phenomenal job so far by the way if I can say that but I feel like most of the people who came to the Maga movement came to that for domest for na for nationalist nationalistic reasons and don't see under understand the interplay between the the national and the global and as they are finding that out they are seeing how horrible the Deeds are done of the global and there is going to be this impulse to destroy this thing completely destroy this thing and by the way I don't that's not even my principal fear because I I actually think you know the other part of this is that I could very easily seeing see most of these grants being preserved simply through the trench State Department yeah right simply [57:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3437) through the state department I mean this is what happened with brexit everyone celebrate everyone who is pro brexit celebrated brexit the day it happened that to me is like the closure of the a building but the fact is is they effectively stop brexit post brexit because of the there's so many layers of resistance at implementation and that we're going to run into that here which is why I'm I'm I'm using this time to be able to talk with you today on something that is that's on this which is that you're you're going to need to understand the purpose for these things and the scope of it and be able to look at just how bad it is with clear eyes and not necessarily I mean [58:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3480) have your rage boiling your anger moment and when when that clears a fundamental reorganization of the way we carry out soft power is going to have to replace what we used to do if we don't do these Dirty Deeds anymore but it has to be in the service of goals that you know are worth achieving you know like having a strong and free country right the the only problem with that is Trump represented something very different than that Vision that was expressed by the bush Biden blob unip party that had that had been there and in in countries that are not stable elections completely change every you know when and this maybe gets to whether or not [58:59](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3539) you know the the problem is not necessarily just the institutions but rather the the sort of legacy of momentum of of all these previous political forces because you could see a situation where then okay every time a magga type populist candidate wins an election all of our foreign policy institutions switch radically in One Direction calling that American interest and then a sort of internationalist blob globalist person wins an election all the institutions switch all that and so you know you can't you can't even build permanent structures in in foreign countries or permanent netw because everything's so schizophrenic I mean this is this is the problem with our system is that it doesn't have continuity and the whole purpose of the [59:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3582) deep state is to provide I mean no one ever says this but I grew up around it purpose of the deep state is provide continuity in a democracy in which leadership changes every 4 or8 years so how does that work exactly so you have have the political structure that runs everything at the request of the population that's called democracy but then you have you know longitudinal interests that have to be represented regardless of who's in power right and so you know the Deep State arose in response to an actual need you have to have continuity right politics stops at the water's edge right exactly right but then unfortun but at the same time the Deep state has to be in some deep sense responsive to the population or else you have tyranny right so like it's a very [01:00:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3626) you know democracy is not um an easy system to administer it's it's an easy one to talk about and it you know it doesn't work that well in some ways uh obviously I want it to I'm not against democracy of course being an American but it doesn't it you know it's hard so um no I agree I think the big changes at the Deep State these institutions were taken over by incredibly dumb shortsighted selfish people I don't think the problem is you know having an elite the problem is having an inadequate mediocre selfish Elite that doesn't actually like the country they're running so that's just my personal editorial position on that but I I I see what you're saying I mean I've seen it a lot um but here's I want to get back to something you said the very [01:01:14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3674) beginning which is the corrupting effect on America the country the place of 350 million people of this kind of behavior and the bleeding over of these ta tactics into our country yeah so like for example I was the one thing that really shocked me about these disclosures was that a lot of our domestic media's government media didn't know that Politico which is garbage utterly garbage publication and it's become much worse I would say uh in the past five or six years takes $8 million a year from the government sort of secretly sort of semi- secretly what's that well there's there's a distinction I think that's useful to draw here between um public agencies paying for premium Services of of us news websites that foreign facing so for example you [01:02:09](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3729) know the state department pays for premium uh subscriptions to various news sites uh in order to be able to have access to you know all of the you know New York Times or Politico uh you know to be able to get behind the pay wall for their employees so that while they're doing their job of soft power influence abroad they have the maximum amount of knowledge at their fingertips it's the same thing with but that's all fake I mean political Pro there's literally it's written by 25y olds you know there's like nothing in there that's real they're paying off political right well that's right well but there's there's two forms of that and and I'm and I'm just also trying to educate people as they go through this discovery process about the extended because [01:02:49](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3769) you're going to see it's it's everyone but there are two forms of it one is one is is a you know 100% it's pernicious uh the other one has there's smoke but there's not necessarily fire and so when I say this the smoke not it obviously creates an incentive to um please your the people giving you these government procurements for example if the this is this is what I publish for example about Reuters you know the Biden Administration um you know government agencies you know tally something like $300 million to uh to D various Reuters um uh sort of Sister Sister company groups uh between their between their news agency between their their um West Law Arm and between their uh you know sort of like forensic and like accounting [01:03:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3820) services but uh you know you see these big like $60 Million worth of Grants from the justice department and now the justice department is paying paying for West law you know which is a Thompson Reuters thing it still makes Reuters richer and but Reuters is writing hit pieces on the very people that the justice department is going after and so it's it's softening up you know the enemies and in fact you know Reuters won a Pulitzer Prize for its hitpiece for its investigative series on Mal feasant by Elon Musk at all his portfolio companies Tesla X nurlink SpaceX and meanwhile the Biden administration had 11 different regulatory agents uh regulatory agencies going after all those and so the the med media getting paid by the government was providing the [01:04:28](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3868) ammunition for prosecutions and regulator Regulatory and disciplinary actions against the very stated targets of the government so you you don't have a you don't have a stated agreement in that case you have a very very perverse incentive but there are places where you have where it's even worse because there's again there's there's s two forms that can take in the form of you know paying for services but then also there's the affirmative sponsoring of media so um you know for example uh the state I believe it's the state department maybe USA does pay like the Reuters news agency uh for for work abroad but it's it's a lot less than the the premium services but but more more to like here's a really clean example that gets to the heart I think of what [01:05:13](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3913) you're talking about with this domestic and how this all ties together the L the world's largest Consortium of investigative journalists is a group called The ocrp and you just think of it the corruption reporting project um they have since the very beginning been they were initially I believe fully funded by by the US government or they were the the anchor fund and now now I believe half of their funds come from a combination of usaid and and the state department and the and these are supposed to be independent journalists and they're investigative hitpiece writers covering the topic of corruption um if if there's something that's published on on ocp's you know website or through their media Network it's [01:05:54](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=3954) never about uh the sky was blue today and um you know someone saved a cat from a tree no it's it's all investigative hitpiece work exposing some aspect of corruption in a country and so for ex and this was something that uh that the US began funding really I mean this type of work over a decade ago and really uh around this before ocrp around the time of Yugoslavia and what not because we wanted to create a predicate to arrest the political enemies of the state department in the region by cooking up corruption scandals that prosecutors can then use to arrest them on the basis of corruption and so the problem is prosecutors don't know what to look for uh and also it's it's it it's not necessarily politically feasible to [01:06:43](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4003) prosecute somebody who's got a Halo on them so the Halo has to be broken by hitpiece news articles by investigative journalists who often get proprietary access for example you know those CCP this corruption reporting project has gotten very strange special access to hack documents while they're being funded by you know what many believe to be a CIA front group you know in the form of us Aid uh you know when when they get special access to documents hacked from a a computer and use that as the basis for the Panama papers well you know they're reporters you can't ask them their Source but the interests align these are the targets of of the US state department who happens to be funding them they are mercenary media for the state now what now I'm going to [01:07:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4045) I want to mention two aspects of this Scandal because it's this plays out everywhere but this one it's just it it's it's simultaneously clean and dirty enough that I feel like it's just an anecdote everyone should remember forever one directly on us politics and targeting of trump as you mentioned ocrp got they their Eurasia you know covers like seven or eight countries that they're supposed to dig up dirt of uh you know of of corrupt politicians and corrupt you know um oligarchs in in those in those territories and their Eastern Europe Europe $20 million for their Eastern European operation and so that covers Ukraine and so what did they do in 2019 they dug up dirt on Rudy Giuliani and then that dirt ended up being used as part of the impeachment of [01:08:13](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4093) Donald Trump in 2019 so they H so they this is the state department funding mercenary media to then dig up dirt on high-profile US citizens metastasizing into that very evidence being entered into the Congressional Record to to to successfully impeach the president of the United States so in that case if there was no you know if there was no State Department us Aid funding to occrp they wouldn't have you know presumably had the capital to uh to go out and dig up dirt on Rudy Giuliani and then Americans wouldn't have been hearing you know that these are and they also uh you know wrote hit pieces on Paul manfor and uh and his I believe his relations with Julian nange but basically you had this foreign policy blob apparatus who hated [01:09:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4146) Trump and wanted to take him out and just like State and usaid were paying ocrp to dig up dirt on foreign oligarchs and and foreign presidents the net result and we don't know if there was any sort of and I'm not saying that there wasn't necessar necessarily uh you know a direct agreement to do that I'm not privy to that but the fact is is that is ex that is in effect what happened the the faction of the foreign policy establishment that most detested Trump and wanted him out he was being impeached because of his foreign policy around Russia and Ukraine and it and so us Aid spending to journalists in Ukraine comes back to be used to impeach Trump well and and to smear me as a Russian agent that's been reported it's [01:09:54](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4194) out there it's proven so my tax dollars go to imputing my character and calling me a disloyal American at a certain point you're like we kind of need a revolution I mean that's why should we put up with that for a second well we're we're in a sort of you can you can Fe I can you can feel the the passion around this this week and and people sensing how much of their world has been usurped without their consent by these institutions but just to complete this on on on the corruption reporting project that gets half of its funding from the state department in USA and the US government has the formal yes you know yes yay yes no uh about who they can bring on as staff and they have to you know submit basically you know what [01:10:46](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4246) they're going to do you know uh the year ahead but on usaspending.gov I'm sorry on usa.gov the USA website before it went down this weekend but I have all the receipts and I have all the PDFs on my social media feed they they have a SE they have a whole document on this corruption reporting pro pro project and and how how amazing it has been for for us uh you know for for USA's anti-corruption humanitarian work and it it shows the entry says $20 million and here are the you know seven or eight countries they operate in the next page has something which is just abs absolutely devastating to the to the concept of of of of the firewall between our humanitarian Aid organization and prosecutors it's called it's the accomplishment section and [01:11:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4296) there are four bullet points in this accomplishment section again this is on usa.gov publicly boasting about hit pieces for hire mercenary media to call people corrupt call Citizens call so the first line item is over a billion dollars worth of assets seized so they're basically saying hey great return on investment we spent $20 million we were able to seize a billion dollar but you did that by paying journalists to dig up dirt on people what if the journalist got it wrong what you know what if uh there's no legal process by the way I mean it's not like people went to court and we're found guilty or anything we just took the stuff well act well this is this get that we'll get to that actually that's bullet point 4 but bullet point 2 was it [01:12:21](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4341) was something like a somewhere between 100 and 300 policy changes um in different government and Civil Society institutions in these countries so this USA saying us paying for political Black Ops hit pieces generated hundreds of policy changes at the government level and and at the institutional level there well we're presupposing all those are good uh I mean they wouldn't be calling them an accomplishment unless the USA thought they were good so they're they have a catalyzing change they want to do to the policies of foreign countries and they think the way to do that is to pay mercenary media Outlets to dig up dirt on people and then use that as the predicate to force through policy changes then they have a section on all the different government officials that [01:13:13](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4393) they got that that were um that were forced to resign um because of uh their state us Aid state sponsored media and I think the list was like six or seven but they said including a president and a prime minister so they they bragging effectively in this in this document that hey what a bang for the buck for $20 million we were able to topple two governments and then the fourth bullet point is is the one that winds through its whole this whole USA prosecutor story it says 456 arrests and indictments generated on the basis of of ocp's reporting so this is the state department bragging about the incredible volume of human beings whose lives and Liberties have been taken from them because of sponsored hit Pieces by the US [01:14:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4447) government we don't know how many of those people were innocent we don't know you know uh what what even they were charged for when you read that usa.gov document on ocrp it doesn't even list their crimes we just know it's a good thing that 456 people got arrested because we paid for for what do their families think you know right and and prosecutors then use that as the basis for for criminal you really become hated in the rest of the World by behaving this way well how many foreign leaders have you seen um you know um other than maybe one I can think of but how many foreign leaders have you have you seen who have been making impassioned floor speeches this week about the tens of thousands of people are going to die if USA leaves uh [01:14:53](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4493) I'm wondering where all the leaders of African countries have been this week or or uh you know lowincome Central Asian or western hemisphere countries are um why do why are they all either silent or like in the case of El Salvador relieved that this is happening none of them are getting the money in fact many times usaid is forced on them as a condition I know I know some of those leaders and they don't want our Aid at all right yeah right often times usaid institutions are forced into their country or forced into different regions in their country as as part of a compliance measure that the state department is imposing you know you need to have a certain level of uh human rights you know uh you know monitoring or uh you know they [01:15:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4537) your your water levels have to have this you know certain percent uh Purity or you need to be able to maintain you know this you know your energy uh development has to be this consistent with climate change or else you know we're going to you know destroy you in the in you know with with our trade relations or we're going to put sanctions on you unless you put our humanitarian Aid organs in there and so boom just like that under the banner of Aid We're in control of your energy infrastructure we're in control of your river systems yeah so you know I think the reason that the only people that we really see who are def who are pro defending us Aid right now are people in here in the United States or in NATO uh you know that are directly or indirectly on the take or their or their [01:16:23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4583) donors or constituents are so in sep M we went across the country Coast to Coast 17 different cities on a Nationwide live tour and it was amazing and we brought the entire staff with us like we always do cuz we all worked together for so long and enjoy traveling together and one of our producers is a documentary filmmaker and so he decided to make a documentary film about our trip a full month Across America with some of the most interesting people around different people join us every single night Don Gino and Russell Brand and Bobby Kennedy and JD Vance and Donald Trump ET Etc we had the best time and the fruit of that is a documentary called on the road the Tucker Carlson live tour which is available right now on TCN on the road Tucker Carlson live [01:17:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4626) tour it is hilarious you will like it so I I got an email from a friend of mine a text from a friend of mine yesterday such a wonderful guy actually conservative Trump fan but um a recipient of USA money and uh he said is totally corrupt you're right um but he goes they don't understand you're going to tank the economy of Northern Virginia if you shut the spigot off right and I thought maybe that's the one perspective people watching in the US don't understand is how totally dependent the DC Metro area is on foreign policy spending yeah it's not it's not making it to Congo it's stopping in Arlington it's well that's why I said donors and constituents right because those are cons like think about the the congressman in those representing those [01:17:52](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4672) districts and uh you know you you you see that that's exactly right it's it's it's our own you know it's our own economies and and and then you know the point I was making earlier is that you know you are going to have this sort of um followon trickle down economic impact if uh many of our multinational corporations who form the Bedrock of our you know stock exchanges and Chamber of Commerce uh you if the Dirty Deeds that USA does are cut out are they still going to have uh as will that impact their profitability and so that's why I I I want to you know spend the time in the beginning just talking about that that tension because in in the oil and gas case like Trump has a plan around that drill baby drill right like like [01:18:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4725) you don't we might not need to fund transgender dance festivals in order to you know like you go to the CIA World Book uh you know everyone go on cia.gov and just look at every country and the CIA has a world book of of all the Strategic resources in every country and so you know Burma is top strategic resource petroleum okay let's just we don't need to necessarily have the sticky issue about whether or not uh we need to extract those foreign resources from Burma if if the sitting government there doesn't if we are drill baby drilling at home right there's creative offsets that can be done to replace dirty tricks you know for example like you know with with Isis and uh and the the Dynamics in Syria and Afghanistan and Pakistan if there are ways to [01:19:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4769) reconceptualize the way we do trade in the region or do creative you know joint Partnerships or or try to make inroads into other you know parts of the population that were not you know tested as as robustly um but you're going to need to think a lot more creatively about that when you don't have access to the the Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap and that and so that's just I feel like that I just want to impress that point because I think a lot of magga Republicans are going to think that it's it's easier than it is to reorganize that and there's just a lot of surgery that needs to be done if you're going to cut that function out which I totally support doing in nine out of 10 cases but there's a you know there's going to be a Remnant and we [01:20:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4824) need a Doctrine that's cohesive and cable to the American people because the problem was is we had built such an elaborate La Labyrinth of Lies that you couldn't even honestly talk about it with people this is the whole oversight thing that I mentioned you know you this happened with the zunzo scandal with USA in um in from 200 uh 9 to 2014 is there was um you know we USA and Ned were at the Forefront of the Arab Spring and toppling democratically elected governments and Tunisia and Egypt and all over um you know in these Street color revolutions that were powered by digital diplomacy you know we've discussed this before you know where USA was funding people in you know to do do youth engagement for how to use Facebook hashtags and you know uh and and how to [01:21:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4872) mobilize Street protests so that everyone knows where to go and and what kind of uh you know slogans and slang to use and so you know they wanted to they kind of like the George Floyd protests yeah kind of like the George Floyd protest kind yeah wait can I ask you to pause and just remind us why exactly the Obama State Department would want to topple say the government of Egypt um there's there's a a lot I my understanding is is a lot of it has to do with the natural resources and um you know the sort of Middle East North Africa um you know I mean the fact is is you know like I mean Egypt is the you know sort of the lip of of Europe that way and um but I think there's probably Middle Eastern politics that play into it as well and it's a it's a complicated [01:22:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4921) picture um but I think we we can say 10 years later more than 10 years later was not a clean win for the United States oh right no totally I I don't see how killing Gaddafi the Iraq War like I don't know that any of this what's going on now in the Middle East Syria Etc I don't I don't see these are obvious victories for us do I don't think they do either actually there's there's been a lot of where did it all go wrong uh in the years post Revolution but in those early years they were really jazzed up about this new internet social media superpower that they had deployed to topple those governments and so they sought to do that in Cuba by creating what they what USA called a Cuban spring and the problem was at that at that time Cuba had banned us social media [01:22:46](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=4966) companies calling them you know a tool of us imperialism and so there was no Twitter allowed and so usaid uh pulled off this operation to create a a a company called zunia which is it was a it was a Twitter knockoff it had the same user interface it had the same like and retweet uh button and uh that was I believe like the Cuban slang word from for hummingbird so was basically even had like the bird and they they knew that they couldn't it couldn't be an American company so they had to convince I think it was two Cuban businessmen to set this up and they ran it as they ran it through US Aid they ran it they what they did is they took humanitarian relief funds earmarked for Pakistan and they ran it through a Byzantine Labyrinth of shell companies and money [01:23:34](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5014) laundered through Cayman Banks and Panamanian Banks and and U you know BVI Banks uh in so that it it got to these Cuban businessmen to set it up so that Cuban Counter Intelligence would not suspect that it was a us thing they this USA contracted out to a group called creative Associates intern AAL Cai it's not CIA it's Cai and they're very creative and and what they the internal documents showed when this whole Scandal blew up at usaid is that us A's plan was to recruit about 100,000 Cubans onto this onto this platform luring them in with uh with algorithms and Vibes favoring sports music and hurricane updates were the were the the main things and then they said once we've and but at the same time we're actually going to be taking all their personal [01:24:22](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5062) data on the back end and we're going to be using AI for all the metadata and all the websites that they visit and all the cookies and we're going to take that to aggregate a political recep political receptivity map of the of the categories of users Within These 100,000 that will be most receptive to take to the streets in a violent revolution against against the government and what they what they plotted is that at the at the appropriate moment once the critical nodes once they had a critical mass of users on the platform and they had enough support from other civil society institutions that were that were being funded by usaid and and state and Ned at the time that they would then activate what they what they called smart mobs they would they would switch the [01:25:05](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5105) algorithms they would they would switch the algorithms and they would selectively Target news distribution of of messages to to users uh on the basis of their political proclivities in order to get them to take to the streets in in violent Street protests and over overthrow their government basically the same you know pull off the same thing that was that happened in the Arab Spring but do it in Cuba and all they needed was enough people on the user base that was their that was what they can I just pause again and just remind people that I I think if most Americans had been aware that this was going on in 2020 the black lives matter protest would have been instantly recognizable as a government sponsored Revolution Co Revolution [01:25:46](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5146) against Donald Trump because that's what it was well I I want to come back to because there's actually a lot there that is um I think we be more even more impactful after just kind of finishing this this one point on on USA here which is that because you know you mentioned if Americans had and know this is going on well what was really interesting about the Scandal is nobody knew that that USA was doing this this was clearly CIA style covert action you know the construction of a private sector for-profit social media company that uh that gets its funds from uh nonprofit human itarian relief funds earmarked for a country 13,000 mil away uh and all with the express stated interest of doing diplomatic you know work with extreme [01:26:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5198) diplomatic implications overthrowing the government of a foreign country and so as this Scandal all broke open um the the media and what it happened was is Senate oversight had been completely blocked from any information about this operation this is what you heard Joanie Ernst Senator Janie Ernst tell Elon Musk earlier this week when she was explaining how she was totally blocked by USA it was a total Black Box they they uh you know it's all in-house it's all subject to the Inspector General there and if the Inspector General says no the Senate gets nothing and there's nothing they can do and it's less accountable in many respects than the CIA because the CIA when they do covert action they have to get a presidential finding this is part of the reforms that [01:27:21](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5241) were done you know in the 1970s when it L like okay the CIA was going rogue and so every CIA covert action has to be formally authorized by the president of United States but what happens if the president doesn't want to approve something well and and you still want the deed done what if for example you know you belong to a certain wing of the foreign policy establishment that's a DOD is with the president and you know the president's not going to approve it so how can you get that done like say for you know the funding of Isis groups for example Trump was wanted to crush Isis Hillary Clinton and Jake Sullivan said Isis is on our side in Syria the Biden Administration kicked billions of dollars in the aggregate to Isis and and Al-Qaeda groups just are now the sitting [01:28:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5286) government of Syria in fact right now the current head of the government in Syria uh Muhammad Al jalani was there was a $10 million bounty on his head as being a Al-Qaeda terrorist uh that that tweet is still live on the US Embassy in Syria right but if Trump wouldn't authorize the CIA covertly running funds to the uh to Isis but that cell within the CIA still want to do it all they need to do is walk on over to their friends at us Aid and US Aid can do it without a presidential finding they can call now they can all it takes is creative structuring they can just do it through humanitarian you know relief funds to uh you know to a certain you know part of the you know certain certain region that has a you know disproportionate amount of Isis K in it [01:28:56](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5336) they can fund you know the the educational institutions or they can water the this's another thing USA had got in trouble for is when they were um they were they were essentially um sustaining the the heroin the world's heroin Supply 95% of the world's heroin Supply you know came from came from Afghanistan why were they doing that well I the so us AIDS one of their one of their close Partners is another USA adjacent entity called the US Institute for peace it's its office is right next to the state department in in Washington DC it gets it was created by Congress it gets $56 million a year from taxpayers and in uh last in in 2023 the US Institute for peace um wrote a white paper that said uh that told the Taliban not to shut down the the heroin not to [01:29:51](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5391) shut down the poppy fields because it would create a quote economic and humanitarian disaster uh that basically um I mean this is this is the state department they're fully funded by the US state department they are they are sort of the policy arm uh of you know many many of the aspects of us Aid whereas us Aid is 44 billion they only have 56 million but they they all Advance US foreign policy in a cohesive vision for a region and they're both operating in Afghanistan so while us Institute for peace is saying we need to keep the heroin flowing it was usaid who was doing all the the water irrigation of the poppy fields uh in order that that allowed that propagation of the heroin to continue and that gets into you know a a [01:30:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5440) darker story around the role of of Narco you know Narco activity and Narco gangs as instrument of State instruments of statecraft you know this was you know the muah Haden that were pumped up by big new brzinsky and rcia and you know in the 1970s and 80s and they you know they were they were being funded by drug money from the golden from the Golden Crescent and it being laundered into Pakistan Banks like the CIA Bank um you know BCCI and everyone can read about the bank of credit and commerce International Scandal and the and and that but you know it was it was Narco terrorism funding uh for us backed terrorist paramilitary groups that we were propping up as free Freedom Fighters against the Soviets in Afghanistan um you know if you remember [01:31:28](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5488) seeing the old uh you know Osama Bin Laden puff piece you know Freedom Warrior on the road to peace with you know when he's back in the mujah Haden days but what I'm saying is you see this play out everywhere you know this was a this was a big part of you know um how uh how right-wing capitalist movements were in in western hemisphere were propped up against leftwing socialist and Marxist um you know uh opposition in in the 1950s and 60s and and you see this run through everything I mean think about What's happen with El Salvador you know why did why did uh bu say that you know basically was the first one on X to say that yeah USA is awful it's got to go countries don't want it look at my case because USA was trying to regime change [01:32:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5540) him from there the Soros groups I mean they all said that his to clean up the drug trade were humanit you know were were uh you know humanitarian violations of the rights of drug cartels have you seen that that uh you know the the government of Mexico appears to actually be quite uh quite happy with the move to abolish us Aid there's a piece in Newsweek about this Trump's strange allies in the in the you know in the fight to end us Aid and it's uh it's the Mexican Government they don't want it either well there what I'm saying is is the scope of our Dirty Deeds Done through US Aid and state department grants and through CIA covert activity that is only made possible because they're working with assets whose budget is funded by us Aid or or [01:33:09](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5589) budget is funded by state or budget is funded by the national down for democracy or others you know a lot of that work is just liasing with assets that are that are there they don't have that big a budget USA just a three times bigger budget than the CIA and so they depend on working with State Department USA cultivated assets and so we're going have to disentangle this whole spiderweb in order to form a cohesive foreign policy Vision that isn't evil and I think that's I kind of think that's the point that isn't evil because I mean in our system I'd really think in any system even a a monarchy the people have to think that in general the government is you know doing things they [01:33:54](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5634) approve of isn't actively evil isn't you know in business with the drug cartels in Mexico which our government is as you know um because there's if the people of a country don't think it their own government has legitimacy like it can't last very long it doesn't last right right no absolutely so um are you concerned that when people learn like what's going to happen when these stories penetrate that that yes your government has been paying to wreck a lot of other places and you know is working against you using your money I mean what it's kind of hard to unknow that right and thank goodness you know because we're we're going to need that level of national Consciousness about these scandals in order to create the moral buffer against the temptation [01:34:50](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5690) to be evil again that's exactly right and you know so I do think that this is all because because this is this is a this is a dog fight to the Bone we are going to be at every level at the every year in the budget there's going to be this fight I mean now and you know here's the question how much more does the state department get in the budget you know if since you know had like a $35 billion budget now it's getting us AIDS 44 billion uh but what fraction of that is Trump going to I've been saying here for for for a long time because everyone talks about how USA is funneling things to leftwing causes and very easy to see that you we talked about the 97% of employees at USA do donate to [01:35:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5738) Democrats but to me the the main issue here is the remnant of internationalist republicans in Congress who can form a critical majority block with in the house or in the Senate in order to get their way on this issue like you could you could see a situation where their own vested interests their own constituents are so dependent on either us Aid's funding or the results of us Aid operations uh that they will side with the Democrats in order to in inflict damage on the Trump White House of course budget vision and so that's going to be a a constant fight and my what what I'm hoping evolves over the next weeks and months is a moral North [01:36:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5793) Star for a America First nationalist or populist or Maga or or Centrist or simply you know reasonable liberal or or Center left folks where you have the current level of American Prosperity you remove that evil in in the Labyrinth of Li something needs to fill that Gap you know like we talked about the oil and gas spaces drill baby drill for for oil okay but now do that for semiconductors you like you and now do that for every critical mineral and and maybe the answer is I mean what I've been trying to sell is that if you're going to do the Dirty deeds and you do believe they're necessary for statecraft then there has to at least be an obligation to be honest about them you know like I thought it was very honest [01:37:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5846) you know when Lindsey Graham finally came out and said the Strategic vision of the United States is the the you know the 14 trillion doar worth of Natural Resources um relying on the humanitarian predicate for it allows voters to be deceived and for them to uh then turn around and be totally feel totally Hoodwinked when they find out that hey why are you paying for the unions the media companies the what things that are they're acting here on the Homeland I we have this tumor that we're removing from the the the body of the American project but there was blood flowing into that and it's connected to all these arteries my the thing that I want to make sure happen that is midwifed appropriately is what are you changing [01:38:14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5894) about our foreign policy structure so that when you remove the tumor um you know you the blood still you know flows in the way that you want it to you know you're not ripping the heart out with open heart surgery I get it I'm just less confident that than you are that we're reaping some massive reward for this I mean I remember people muttering Darkly about you know the purpose of the Iraq War in 2003 was to seize the oil in Iraq well that didn't happen didn't happen in Libya I mean I I don't it's it's hard to I guess I don't have a clear picture of the material benefits that we're receiving from this well look at look at the benefits to the to the stock price for Chevron and Exon when the war broke out and and the the US state department strong armed every [01:38:58](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5938) country in Europe to divest from Russian gas and they all were forced to buy expensive uh North American LNG uh their their stock prices went to the moon they they had something like you know triple the you know the profits or something for for a certain period of months uh you know following that and reap these windfall benefits um and you know the the this is we're sort of confronting the ghost of Ronald Reagan here because you know the the the the reason you do that for statecraft purposes is trickle down economics what's good for Exon Mobile is good for the American citizens and so if so a dirty deed done to advance you know uh Big O you know Big Oil Big Egg you know uh big Tech whatever it is anything that's good for them is good for us and [01:39:49](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=5989) so anything that the that the US government can do in the form of overt or covert diplomacy or covert influence in the region that tips the scales in favor of those Us corporate interests or us multinational interests will ultimately trickle down to the people itself I mean that's the logic and you need to I understand I just I I don't I don't think it's a holistic view of of it first it assumes that the interests of big publicly traded companies are identical to those of the United States which is not true second it assumes that weak neighbors make a strong America also not true destroying the economy of Western Europe is actually not in our long-term interest at all it just helps China and it changes the balance of power globally East that is not in our [01:40:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6035) interest at all and so I I'm not confid I think the people running this are dumb actually I don't think they know what they're doing I don't think they even understand you know the big picture Grand game type diplomacy I just don't think they're capable of it I think they're they're dumb they're like on Twitter and so I just don't have confidence in their judgment I guess is what I'm saying is that fair no I think it is um because if your measure is like short-term stock spikes okay those are pretty easy to affect that's like you know but that's not the same as like long-term Prosperity but maybe they're smarter than maybe I'm the dumb one take the Pepsi cou in 1973 the the you know we overthrew the government of of Chile we [01:41:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6077) toppled you know the Ia government and uh you know 30 years later 35 years later um files were Declassified that showed that the chairman of the Pepsi Cola Company um had lobbied the Secretary of State uh to um that that US national interest in the form of Pepsi Cola bottling operations were going to be devastated if IA was allowed you you know one you was allowed to remain in power and uh I forget if he was nationalizing some element but basically you know Pepsi had these bottling operations there it was going to massively you know tank their capacity to produce the the the cans for Pepsi bottles and so um a meeting was organized between uh like it was it was the it was the CIA [01:42:09](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6129) director at the time and and the chairman of Pepsi Cola everyone can look up the guardian article on this just type in Pepsi cou Chile and uh so the the the chairman of Pepsi and the the of the Central Intelligence Agency have a planning meeting uh about the best way to overthrow a government in order to preserve Pepsi's profits and they even bring in to the meeting the the meeting minutes show they bring in uh basically the state Department's media guy for the region who ran a a web of of uh print media and radio stations so that the media guy could be brought into the propaganda um you know that was being cogenerated effectively by the CIA and Pepsi well I mean this plays out everywhere as [01:42:56](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6176) as multinational corporations can benefit from US Government pressure on foreign companies apply to that that's that's clearly true I just I just I I you know I think that American business interests have a very obvious recent history of trading short-term profits for long-term strength you know selling all your industries to China at 40 cents on a dollar you know clearly makes a small number of people rich but it's like it's not a long-term plan for Prosperity actually well you know they's not good at this in a way it's a miracle that this is happening because it's forcing us to confront all the related issues as we put together a more cohesive vision for us soft power which is that that reaganite style tricken down economics [01:43:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6217) 1980s thing may have made sense when those corporations were American corporations with American manufacturing facilities employing American labor but now these are nominally you know American companies but they are not but there's no the there's no trickle down because it's not like that's substantially increasing American jobs when they're going overseas to eia J the first place right or or it's not you know Pro providing you know enhancing the security of our supply chains because it you know it's giving more more for our factories because we don't have the factories anymore and so Trump is doing all this in tandem you know he's trying to onshore things he's trying to bring back domestic manufacturing and some of that may be [01:44:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6260) how we approach statecraft which is that you know the the kinds of entities that we consider to be US national interest are the ones that you know have a certain amount of American Investment you know you can't be a sort of American in name only uh and you know have uh you know you know so much of your Workforce in China or have so much of your you know um you know operations uh you know I mean there may be a sort of you we need to sort of have a a cohesive vision of of what national interest is if we're not going to completely agree I mean know com companies basically owned by The Sovereign wealth funds of our Rivals who are only here to benefit from our enforcement of copyright etc etc no sense really American um why why are we like wrecking the world for their [01:45:14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6314) benefit you know so I just want to end on the just to get deeper if you don't mind into this question of the effect of our foreign policy on our domestic life and you just can't escape the suspicion that our politics are really volatile we're way less free than we were in part because of you know methods of control refined overseas like I just look back the last five years and I'm like everything you've said about what usaid and Ned and all these other groups are State Department are doing abroad I'm just seeing that here so am I being crazy oh not at all um I mean there's a million direct examples of this there's something that you've brought up several times so far around black lives matter and I I I feel like that was so obviously fake like this Armed robber [01:46:04](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6364) porn star drug addict gets dies of a drug OD on the street after passing you know a counterfeit Bill and like all of a sudden America collapses come on come on dude right right well and Osama Bin Laden plann 911 I'm like the whole thing is just too dumb for me I can't deal with it right no and there's there's a few a few pieces to that so first um black lives matter is you know one of the main NOS that serves as the black lives matter Clearing Houses is the tide Center and the tides foundation and um USA gave the tide Center a $27 million Grant okay now here here we go yeah and um now nominally that Grant is for uh the tide tide Center institutions to solicit uh uh secure concrete investments from foreign countries on [01:46:57](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6417) issues related to US national interest so basically the us8 has deputized this you know group that's you know in the center of the nest around around black lives matter uh to secure commitments from foreign governments from a formal US government agency they're deputized to act as a sort of long arm of the state department and they're getting 27 million for it and by by the way when they get actually before before I go deeper on the the the black lives matter stuff because there's a there's a lot there um I've been calling this the the smithm problem for us Aid right we had a smithm act from 1948 until 2013 with the modernization under Obama that effectively got rid of it that prohibited foreign propaganda or or fake [01:47:44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6464) news stories intended for foreign audiences from being circulated here at home exactly they got rid of that with USA it's even worse because as bad as it is for propaganda us Aid has the smithm problem for financing and operations the US Aid can provide money to International institutions or to NOS for their work abroad but then they turn around and and now they have all this money and they now are wealthy and and powerful and deeply ingrained highly pedigreed institutions because of all money from State and Aid and and Ned but there's nothing blocking them from also operating on us soil so you know give an example of like there's a you know this this for-profit private sector censorship mercenary firm called [01:48:38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6518) newsguard and got a $750,000 pentagon contract to uh you know help the Pentagon trace the information for fingerprints of Russian Miss and disinformation okay maybe there's a strategic interest in the Pentagon uh mapping out pro-russia narratives uh in in regions around the world but News Guard targets US citizens News Guard has you know um the the the former head of NATO on its board the former I've been targeted by newscard so I know yes yeah of course but they whether or not the grant is for like they don't have there's a lot of domestic censorship grants that the Biden Administration gave to pump these things up domestically like the National Science Foundation did this a lot but in this case it's what you're doing is [01:49:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6565) you're making the institution more powerful you're buffering its revenues you're padding its profit margins so it's now more powerful to be able to take you on even if the grant isn't for that money exactly and exactly so it bleeds into it and this this happens with every institution usaid works for and when you under again coming back to the fact that USA is at the heart you know us8 is is the swing player between the state department the CIA and the Pentagon and and it works with all three of those and you know you never know when you see a US aid program which of those three Ops is being run but you know for certain it's one of those three you don't know if it's to advance you know a a stated uh State Department diplomacy uh uh priority in the region [01:50:11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6611) you don't know if it's being used in order to advance a US National Security interest in the region or you don't know if it's being used to advance an unstated State Department foreign policy goal being pursued by the CIA and it's F and its functioning as an intelligence EV I'll give you some examples of this in 2021 I've talked about this a few times but under Mark Millie and and Joe President Joe Biden the the the first Special Forces um vision statement perspectus uh Pages 16 17 everyone can look this up it's a it's on it's a public doc you know government document you can find online and it's it presents a a way to synchronize the the psych ological uh operations and civil military Affairs work that the Special Forces does um with the different organ [01:51:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6660) with with the different um foreign policy agencies can play supporting rool so they give an example of uh they're trying to PL block the Chinese from buying a port in China um and uh the CH the African I'm sorrya in Africa the African government doesn't want to go through with it I I'll I'll just try to make this as as simple as possible basically what ends up happening is is um the state department can't get the African government to to cooperate and agree to cancel this you know this this port construction and so they they need to buy time before the port is completed for the state department to have more carrots and sticks more leverage to be able to force the African government to relent and cancel it that is they need more either more [01:51:48](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6708) Appropriations and allocations to be able to bribe them with or they need more scks to be able to punish them with you know leverage from from from you something harm that's being done that they can offer to make the pain stop and so so this is what the Special Forces document Envision envisages which is that the role of the special forces in that in that scenario in the name of of great power competition and Special Forces role in countering you know peer competitor from from China and and they also argue there's a national security basis because this would give China it was a West African hypothetical country so it would give China access to the Atlantic but what what they what they did in this scenario and they war game this all out is how they would [01:52:27](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6747) effectively induce race riots to get the African workers to um to uh to go all go on strike and boycott and take to the streets and protest against the Chinese business interests this would also devastate the the the country economically it would it would effectively bring the uh you know it would also humiliate the the Chinese business interest in the area and so it would create this International Scandal it would scandalize the port construction and the destabilized economic state would allow this the US ambassador to walk back in and say hey uh you know you know all this pain can stop just cancel the the poor construction type thing but what's really interesting is in the Special Forces perspectives you imagine writing [01:53:04](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6784) that like let's let's incite race riots and they well they their quote was inflame racial tensions or inflame tensions can you imagine yeah and so what they did is um I think it was inflame tensions but they explicitly say you know it's Africans versus the Chinese there and and what they did is the the the role of us Aid in this Special Operations uh scenario literally printed you know by the US government was that us a would would swoop into the scene and provide job fars us taxpayers would they do job fars in the exact region where the you know rioter and protesters Were Striking in order because they wouldn't the the special force concern was that the people they needed in the streets in this you know uh protest uh to destabilize the country [01:53:52](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6832) would not want to would not were too poor to leave their jobs they would not want to go on strike in these chinese-owned factories and businesses so they needed a replacement source of income and that was where us Aid came into the operation us Aid would do job fairs and so the African protesters would be subsidized to do that protest Street protest destabilization activity and don't need to worry about whether or not you know uh it's going to cost them their jobs because they're now on the payroll of us Aid and but that was a special forces operation and and you you see this you see this with with everything USA does but um you know to to to come back to this you know thing on um you we were talking about I guess [01:54:39](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6879) BLM and some of this domestic you know foreign thing is um sorry if if you want to draw down that ask me a question but what I'm saying is USA plays this mil this military role as well with it with with uh support assistance but I mean treating US citizens like you would treat foreign enemies or adversaries is something I never imagined would happen but it it is happening well because once they when they defined populism as a threat to democracy because it undermines public faith and confidence in Democratic institutions they were able to effectively categorize the sitting president of the United States as an attack on democracy and good thing we're democracy promotion programs because [01:55:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6924) that we are the white blood cells uh in of the immune system uh to stop you know the virus of threats to democracy so of course de you know populism is democracy demand for majority rule but yeah okay no of course but they say you know we need Democratic institutions to provide the bumper cars to stop demagoguery can I just ask you something like so the Nina janowitz famously was you know played a censor domestic censorship role it's an absurd absolutely absurd figure like pulled from Tik Tock but human um she gets fired because people are like who is this woman and she winds up at USA ID she she winds up at the the center for information resilience which is a which a is a london-based um you basically a British statecraft organ she had to file a far registration she [01:56:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=6970) became a a registered agent of the United Kingdom uh for you know for her work of USA money aren't they yes yes they were yes recipients of USA money although I believe um she uh I think she wrote that she left there several months ago sometime in 2024 but the fact is is it's still that same network but a lot of these people I mean I just you know being a kid in DC and you'd meet people who had served in the foreign policy uh apparatus and you know they whatever they were doing killing mosc or whatever but they were pretty smart I thought I always thought I mean they were it seems like the current Generations a lot of Nina jankowitz is like just sort of low IQ well you know people like do you know I mean what what's the caliber of the [01:56:56](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7016) people administering these programs well I actually think there's there's there's layers of sophistication to to nah and oh is that true yeah I I do I do think so and and I don't have any personal actr she mean she's written a lot of not flattering things about me and uh you know and I've pointed out the what I consider to be massive you know conflicts of interest when you know the the the entire field of professional internet censorship that is you you get paid you pay your mortgage with paychecks that come from your job censoring the internet I mean I fun I fundamentally do not believe that that Nina's field that you know this this uh you know disinformation of you know censoring citizens in our own country uh [01:57:46](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7066) and leave aside you know the sort of you know maybe more nuanced issue about whether there's a role of countering foreign propaganda and how robust that is the fact is is you know what was done here was just straight up saying that domestic misinformation is a threat to democracy and so the US government should be you know should be play the task of of censoring its own its own people through this whole society network but you you have I mean there's so fundamentally I don't believe that that job should exist and it is you know part of what I consider to be my my purpose in life to try to bring freedom to the internet and to the extent that that that field exists as a profession you know that is those those two things are are in [01:58:28](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7108) conflict and then you know the the other you know part of it is the conflict of interest right when when you can see how these very censorship institutions that are be being being funded by USA and so many of them are it's unbelievable I mean USA has a formal censorship program I believe we've even talked about it before but now it's uh now I think people are starting to you know appreciate the significance of it in fact its website just went down a few days ago and um it's it's under I believe an extraordinary amount of Scandal but you which is that these us Aid takes taxpayer money and creates lobbyists for more us Aid because all the people who it creates a conflict of interest between their own [01:59:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7155) personal piggy banks and what the actual National interest of the country is if if if your whole field is REI is is getting funding you know in in significant part from USA well then you if you want to really make it in this world you have a moral hazard a perverse incentive to become a a tiny little lobbyist to explain why it is that censoring the internet is is is essential to us uh National interest and and to sell a whole ideology and a whole you know completely different vision of what our country even is and what we're even fighting for because the more that are public grants and contracts the more that are procurements the more that the USA piggy bank funds that the bigger the pie of that field gets and so of course and so [02:00:16](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7216) you but you see this in everything that USA touches you know from the from the media to the social media to the universities to the to the unions to the anti-corruption you know prosecutor work to the humanitarian work around uh you know in drug zones and and in and in paramilitary zones and and so it's it's you know I think it's what Elon would call a self-licking ice cream cone and uh you know the the ice cream's gone bad but with the BLM thing it gets it gets very strange you because because USA is is a professional rent Riot organizer I mean as I even I mean leave aside the countless documented cases of USA Rental riots from you know as as we mentioned the Arab Spring which we you know we went over the rental riots there [02:01:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7266) USA pumped 1.2 billion dollars you know into the region uh you know during that during that period we have literal USA documents uh explicitly doing operational planning to create smart mobs and people to take to the streets and riots um you know it you see it in Georgia you saw it in bellus in in in 2020 it's anytime there are about Minneapolis well this is where it gets interesting in the role of these foreign policy uh institutions and their domestic you know things so there's one other so I want to mention one quick adjacency before we we we go into that uh which is around USA funding to the to the tide Center which I mentioned you know has this black lives matter adjacency but the tide Center is also the the fiscal [02:01:55](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7315) sponsor of a group called fair and just prosecutions which is the central group that manages at least according to reports from I believe daily wire and uh uh writeups in the in I think it was Federalist and such but I believe is a daily wire investigation B oh based on media Research Center report um that fair and just prosecutions is uh is a you know build themselves a sort of left-wing Progressive uh criminal justice advocacy group and they are media Research Center published a long report you know essentially saying that they were the managing control group of Soros prosecutors because the what they do is all these Soros now they don't fund the Soros they don't fund the election campaigns of the uh at least to my knowledge you know of the Soros [02:02:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7360) prosecutors like the open Society Foundation does but what they uh what they do is they they fund they manage you know they get the prosecutors the source ERS assign pledges about what they're going to you know what they're not going to you know to not enforce certain laws that are on the books in the region um you know they pressure them to prosecute certain political targets they give them social media uh hashtags and talking points they help write their press releases they meet with them every you know every week and you know they they're it's you know prosecutors you know at least according to this reporting which has some pretty damning uh you know inside documents to you know to to make this case but you [02:03:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7405) basically have prosecutors being managed by this Shady NGO who is effectively you know puppeteering these prosecutors who are dependent on continued funding for their election campaigns and continued election funding for their future careers you you know what's you know AG attorney general is you know the joke is uh you know it's it's short for aspiring governor you know this is you know the the so it's a path you want to cultivate these donor networks forever but the tide Center which gets 27 million from USA just on basically you know two grants alone for the fign work is the fiscal sponsor of fjp the this group that is you know liasing with uh you know all these prosecutors and securing these pledges why can I just ask when let me just ask you a final question um [02:04:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7457) just to kind of so from everything you've said um um in particular your point that the grants haven't stopped the staff has gone they've been twittered but the the money's still flowing and it's just going to move to the state department which oversees USA anyway um you need some way to stop the poison that they're inspiring overseas from coming in here why why couldn't you just get a variety of the Smith Act again that said there's like no destabilization effort there's no Society changing effort there's really no effort that we project abroad that can be brought here that's what needs to happen for example you can't share the same corporate entity you can't you shouldn't be able to you know if if [02:04:59](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7499) you're I mean imagine if rathon who is paid by the US military to drop deadly lethal You Know M Munitions clusters on foreign countries and and their professional job is killing people and they were getting billions of dollars from the US Pentagon and they uh they opened up uh a you know a Ron you know and Ron started creating a new line of business for or uh domestic countering misinformation projects where they where they monitor the internet for Co skepticism or or uh you know climate change you know denial uh you would look at that you would say rathon is getting paid by the military to kill people overseas and I know their grants you know their their their contracts with the Pentagon are not for that work ex but they have more muscle and money to [02:05:46](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7546) play with they're being pumped up by steroids in overseas exactly I mean you saw that with the Bangladesh case too by the way uh you know the when the the person who is now the Minister of Foreign Affairs in Bangladesh after the coup by the way the the new the new head of state there is a Clinton Global initiative fellow but the the the for the the foreign minister was brought in by usaid for for formal training on countering misinformation and you know who uh who led that it was a a another you know State Department USA contractor a group called PolitiFact it was the executive director of PolitiFact who does you know who writes HIIT on you and me that were conspiracy theorists for talking about January 6 or and they are acting as an instrument of statecraft to [02:06:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7590) uh you know to get money from our paychecks to do International work to to train foreign journalists and foreign ministers uh how to censor or or stop you know the spread of information the state department doesn't like but now they now their margins are padded by that well and that's the point is that the things that we do abroad affect us here we're paying the Ukrainian government and they're assassinating people like literally assassinating people trying to assassinate American citizens fact selling weapons to the drug cartels in Mexico fact and you end up like wrecking your own country with the things that you do abroad right well I'll tell you what we did in the financing space and I remember being a corporate lawyer and watching that [02:07:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7637) evolve and in play yeah we had things like you know these anti we had anti anti terrorist financing you know ofac style laws that prevented laundering you know uh and even if you could technically do it you didn't want to risk it because there were criminal penalties for doing it right and there were Financial penalties right and so in something like this imagine if the grantees had to pay treble damages uh in in the amount of their Grant if if they tripped one of those foreign domestic firewalls if if they had to if their Grant was for 30 million and they have to pay they're they're liable for up to $90 million if if a if a a US court finds that they violated the US Aid Smith month act I mean this this is something that Congress could put in you [02:08:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7686) know put in today I mean you could you could add criminal penalties but you need right now there's no penalty whatsoever the only penalty is that uh it is that people might find out and it might cause a political Scandal and it might make the USA Grant coordinator um less likely to give you the next Grant in the future where's the clawback where's the where's the the the restitution damages uh you know people shouldn't maybe even be able to sue the the US government body administering the grant for for failing to do oversight of the NGO receiving that money you might create a cause a private cause of action against the state department or whatever new form USA costs that can be done legislatively and the message that I mean first of all that would that would [02:08:50](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7730) go a huge distance to being able to deal with this problem because you're going to have this problem whether usaid exists as an outside as an independent agency or whether the state department just inherits a USA herpes infection and just lives with it inside the agency Mike Ben it can go on forever it was your reporting your dogged single-minded almost monomaniacal I will say effort to to bring you know to to public view this web uh um that I think started all of this so mhm well and and you it is a vation by the way I know you have mixed feelings about it and you're worried about the whole edifice collapsing which is a fair concern but I do think you know anyone who called you a nutcase has to apologize at this point thank you for saying that and it [02:09:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7780) wouldn't have been possible without you as well I do just want to clarify I I I it's I don't believe that I have mixed feelings I actually I 100% endorse directionally and technically everything that I've seen so far but I I appreciate the weight of the moment and that you are dealing with something much more delicate yes than simply you know stopping the training dance contests HUD turns up a couple billion dollars worth of waste Fraud and Abuse in the city of Chicago and it's a it's a local issue and it's a it's a big Scandal we're we're I I feel an obligation to to help Midwife this and and but I I totally support it it and I just to me the the it's it's reflection rather than rather than hesitation well it sounds like you're on the side of us interests [02:10:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtXQNDJJm4&t=7830) abroad which exists we do have interests and we should protect them jealously I would say but America First amen yeah Mike Ben thank you very much thank you [Music] Tucker so it turns out that YouTube is suppressing this show on one level that's not surprising that's what they do but on another level it's shocking with everything that's going on in the world right now all the change taking place in our economy and our politics with the wars 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